[upperbid]

UpperBid.com Online Auctions affiliate program has just recently launched with Shareasale for $6.00 per new registered member.

We are looking for good quality affiliates to send us registrations. We pay well and will reward all honest affiliates possessing high integrity who send us real registrations. If this is you, please join our affiliate program for a long-term reliable relationship. We will be around for a long time and provide a steady source of income for your operations. All the new user has to do is register for you to get your commission, no sales are required.

Having said this, we also want to send a strong warning to online ripoffs and dishonest affiliates who abuse the system and attempt to defraud merchants. Do not sign up for our program--if you do, we will catch you, report you, and expose you. No matter how good you think you and/or your software, system or group scam network is, we will spot you in a very short amount of time and remove you from our program. Please do not waste your time or ours, you'll only regret it when all is said and done.

For those honest affiliates who would like to give our affiliate program a try, the link to join our program is

http://www.shareasale.com/shareasale.cfm?merchantID=17606

[id2k]

do you accept traffic from Uk, canada and India? or is only US traffic

[nakedgamer]

Not many affiliates here are going to support your auction site (or it's affiliate program) when it sports Adsense advertisements on it, even from the first page.

[upperbid]

We are currently only interested in United States visitors. Thank you for your interest.

[upperbid]

We have been online developing websites for many years. What possible difference could it make if we have Adsense advertising on our website? There is no logic behind your statement and we know from experience that most affiliates could care less about what type of advertising we have on our site. Successful affiliates are interested in making money with a reliable site that will produce a constant stream of revenue for them and don't waste their time picking apart a site over insignificant issues that are irrelevant to the objective of increasing their income.

[Boomers Supply]

We have been online developing websites for many years. What possible difference could it make if we have Adsense advertising on our website? There is no logic behind your statement and we know from experience that most affiliates could care less about what type of advertising we have on our site. Successful affiliates are interested in making money with a reliable site that will produce a constant stream of revenue for them and don't waste their time picking apart a site over insignificant issues that are irrelevant to the objective of increasing their income.We've [ABW members] been in affiliate marketing for many years AS WELL AS web development and there is very good logic in nakedgamer's post. To affiliates your "advertising" is called leaks. Rather than submit a strong rebuttal you would do well to read around here some and you'd find out what the logic is...

[2busy]

Any program that wants serious affiliates to send them traffic will not try to use that traffic for purposes other than the program that the affiliate is sending their traffic to. Do you have AdSense in your Checkout pages? Same thing.

[upperbid]

"Any program that wants serious affiliates to send them traffic will not try to use that traffic for purposes other than the program that the affiliate is sending their traffic to. Do you have AdSense in your Checkout pages? Same thing."

Do you really think a serious major website is trying to get affiliates to send them traffic so they can click on links? Do you actually believe we would go to all this trouble to make a few dollars? This can be achieved for almost nothing through a variety of traffic programs if this were the objective and it most certainly would not be worth wasting the time and money to get affiliates for this purpose. It costs $650 just to get started with Shareasale and common sense would dictate that any mechant using shareasale is not trying to get traffic so it could click on its google links. In addition, we are the highest paying cpc program at clickxchange with .10 cpc. The thought is actually quite humourous. In addition, for a growing website not to maximize their dollars through advertising revenue is ridiculous. This is the last response we will make to this subject, it's absolute nonsense and a small pety way of thinking. To sum it up, any affiliate that is worried about whether someone you send may click on a google link and give us a quarter because of your efforts, please don't sign up for our program, we're not interested. We're looking for real serious successful affiliates who are looking for a steady stream of income who can send us leads.

[Trust]

"Do you really think a serious major website is trying to get affiliates to send them traffic so they can click on links? Do you actually believe we would go to all this trouble to make a few dollars?"

Major? If you're really serious, you would listen to affiliates, they're just trying to help you out with good advice. If it is actually just a few dollars, I don't see the problem with removing it, since it isn't a big loss and could stop affiliates from signing up. Your attitude isn't helping much either, it's called constructive criticism, should welcome it and learn from it.

[Boomers Supply]

please don't sign up for our program, we're not interested. We're looking for real serious successful affiliates who are looking for a steady stream of income who can send us leads.You've FOUND the "real serious successful affiliates" but you obviously don't understand affiliate marketing. I don't believe we'll (my company) be signing up and that's your loss...

And BTW, why in the world would a merchant (auction site) send visitors to their competitors through AdSense?!?

[upperbid]

Major?

Yes, major. If you did your homework, you would know this. We are on every major search engine and every major shopping search engine with an advertising budget of over $100k a year with almost 19000 unique visitors a month already (this is high quality traffic, not junk traffic, and we only target the United States so we are not trying to attract a worldwide market). We have been up since Late October and have already produced over 350 successful sales and thousands of registrations with over 9,000 listings currently on our site.

As for the sending to competitors. What competitors? Any and all sites we feel to be competitors have been filtered out and will not appear on our site. If you are talking about an insignificant auction site that has no registrations or users, we don't consider that a competitor. You will also notice if you click our advertising link, we do not accept private advertising because that is not the thrust of our business and it would waste unnecessary time for what we consider minimal return for out time. By the way, almost every major website has some form of advertising (it's foolish not to). Also, it would be wise to look at clickthrough statistics on the amount of impressions it takes to get a click and realize that worrying about your traffic to a merchant's advertiser is a very pety and small minded way of thinking. And as we said, we simply do not want affiliates that think this way because they most likely don't have any real successful sites anyhow--this type of thought process simply will prevent them from every being successful. We will never remove our advertising over some affiliate who thinks we're going to make a quarter off his traffic in the rare cases where their traffic might click on it.

As for having FOUND the real successful affiliate, why don't you tell us all your website. Yeah, I don't understand affiliate marketing. That's humerous. I've been on the web developing websites for quite a number of years and have been on both ends. I have run affiliate marketing programs as a merchant through CJ, Clickxchange, Clixgalore, Shareasale, and many others. And I have been an affiliate of all of the others over the many years, watching many come and go. Your problem is that you think small, worrying about a merchant gettin a click at your expense rather than focusing on how you can drive registrations to their site. Anybody with any real knowledge of clickthrough statistics knows that any leaking as some prefer to tag this is so insignificant that its a waste of time to even worry about it.

Any affiliates who are really looking to make money, take some advise from someone who has been in this business a long, long time (and most certainly has much more knowledge on the subject than those posting here). Don't sweat the small stuff, the pennies, focus on developing a site that will attract users and then sign up with programs that will produce for you. And most certainly don't worry about what type of advertising a major site has (that is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard in this business). Try a site out and see how it performs for you, if it works, great, if it doesn't, dump it for something better. I know a substantial amount about internet marketing and affiliate programs. As for the validation of my words, just watch our site over the coming months (there is a traffic pattern statistics link from quantcast in the lower right hand corner that anyone can click to monitor how we're doing). Action speaks much louder than senseless words and rambling.

We'll now say this again, if you are a large successful site that attracts US shoppers, then you already know the things I have written above. We are interested in having you as an affiliate. We are honest and we pay well, and will even increase your payout if you send us genuine valid registrations. You are welcome to sign up for our program and give us a try. The visitor only needs to register, not purchase anything. If our program does not produce for you, dump us.

Another note, we do not accept incentive or reward programs, we simply have found over the years in website development that these generally only produce useless registrations.

[Trust]

"Yes, major. If you did your homework, you would know this."

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS230US230&q=link:http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eupperbid%2ecom%2f

1 backlink.

I checked your site. Besides the leaks, I don't even see 1 person bidding, not 1 bid.

So we might have different definitions of major.

"And as we said, we simply do not want affiliates that think this way because they most likely don't have any real successful sites anyhow--this type of thought process simply will prevent them from every being successful."

Seriously. Take some time and actually read some threads, stick around and learn something.

[upperbid]

"I checked your site. Besides the leaks, I don't even see 1 person bidding, not 1 bid."

You're not looking in the right place.

http://upperbid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?action=Browse&Search=Completed&Cat_ID=0&CatA_ID=122&Lang=English

If you look through these bids, you will find that the majority of bidder use the instant purchase option. Also, you are welcome to click on the feedback of other users and see recent sales as well.

Oh yeah, we are trying to suck you in so we can get your leaks.

[upperbid]

Trust, what kind of nonsense was this link you posted:

http://www.google.com/search?source...perbid%2ecom%2f

1 backlink.

Are you deliberately trying to deceive people?

Readers, ignore this guy's useless link which of couse will produce nothing. Simply type "upperbid" or "upperbid.com" into any search engine on the internet. We have links on every major search engine, every major shopping search engine, many site review portals, and much more.

[nakedgamer]

I think you need to do more research in affiliate marketing and find out what the term "leak" means and WHY affiliates will not support your program if you have leaks on your site.

It's simple. I send MY traffic to YOUR site and they click on an adsense advertisement that you have on nearly every page and WE lose that traffic and YOU benefit (by getting the money from the adsense advertisement). That's nearly the complete definition of a "leak".

We spend our time, money and sweat to get our traffic and earn our money. Any affiliate that knows their stuff will immediately see the adsense ads and not join or pull all links promoting your site.

Seriously if we wanted to send our traffic to an adsense landing page why don't we just build an adsense page ourself and keep all of the money?

[Trust]

Ok, I see some bids. I was checking categories and sorting them by bid.

The link you posted actually doesn't work for me. I typed

link:http://www.upperbid.com/

into Google which shows 1 backlink. Sub that with ebay, which has 442,000.

"Readers, ignore this guy's fabricated link which of couse will produce nothing. Simply type "upperbid" or "upperbid.com" into any search engine on the internet."

That's not how you check backlinks by the way. Not sure if you knew how or not.

Point being, I would listen to the input. Or not and good luck.

[knight01]

I took a look at the link posted to closed auctions. There are thousands, very few with bids and of the ones reviewed, they all ended as an instant purchase. The seller ratings seem very low for the number of closed auctions. I think there may be something more, or less, than meets the critical eye going on.

Never the less...
Congratulations on your site and best wishes on developing your affiliate program.

[nakedgamer]

Also if you think $650 is a lot of money then that alone should tell us how "big" you are as a company. A lot of us here easily make that in a single day (including myself).

If adsense isn't making all that much money then why not remove it? You might find your affiliate program MORE than makes up for the potential adsense revenue.

[nakedgamer]

Okay, in addition I checked out the links Upperbid provided.

258 closed auctions since Feb 23rd, 2008. That is like 2 successful auctions per day.

Upperbid would do well to realize that adsense will also take away customers from their sellers.

[upperbid]

Hi Trust,

My point was that your method of checking backlinks simply doesn't work correctly. If you type "upperbid" into google, and search through the sites, you will find a substantial amound of genuine links on other sites (that are not search related) as well thousands of search related links.

Nakedgamer, you really need to change your way of thinking. This leaking concern is really nonsense. What percentage of the traffic that comes to a site actually clicks on a link? When you really examine the statistics, you will realize that you're worrying about nothing at all. Focus on more important issues, like whether or not a site produces for you. Let's say you send a hundered visitors and maybe two or three (and that's high in honest traffic), click on a google link (which also opens in a new window by the way). So, that merchant made usually less than a $1 off of that traffic (so what, why do you care?). You're sweating the small stuff, the pennies. Your real concern should be over whether or not the site is producing for you. It's all about numbers. Let's say out of those 100 visitors, you get one registration, so you just made $6.00, and the merchant took in $1 because of your traffic. It's so insignificant, that it is costly to even be wasting your time worrying about it. And you're wrong, most serious successful affiliates simply don't worry about that stuff. Almost all sites have some form of advertising, its the nature of the Internet. My point is that you need to quit thinking in the pennies. You need to examine the site and focus on whether or not it will generate the registrations needed to produce income.

[upperbid]

"The seller ratings seem very low for the number of closed auctions. I think there may be something more, or less, than meets the critical eye going on."

Yeah, it's called getting the buyer to actually leave feedback.

[jdenton]

Google links take the focus off of your main selling point; and yes that is a major turn-off for any potential "Good" affiliates who know the business. You'll only gather unexperienced affiliates who do not know better with those nickle and dime methods.

John Denton

[upperbid]

Anyhow, thank you all for your comments and suggestions. I simply do not have the time to continue posting in this forum. Any non-incentive sites with US traffic who think they can send genuine registrations are welcome to sign up for our affiliate program at shareasale and give us a try. Good luck to you all.

[buyjewelry]

The link you posted actually doesn't work for me. I typed

link:http://www.upperbid.com/

into Google which shows 1 backlink. Sub that with ebay, which has 442,000.



(perhaps this should question should be split from this thread)

when checking backlinks if you type "link:http://www.upperbid.com/" you get less results then when you type "link: http://www.upperbid.com/"
[there is a space after link:]

Is there a reason for this?

[jon0574]

seems like a "debate" going in here. If I'm the merchant, I would gladly take the inputs & comments made by affiliates and seriously think about it. Jus my 2 cents.