[Gordon]

I thought I had better repost this in case you did not see it in the other thread.

Is this the kind of data you want? Taken from my stats ith Amazon.com. Notice the difference since they dropped them? No links have been added or changed in this time span
quote:
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Traffic by Item - Orders Report For youtrekcom
August 1, 2002-August 31, 2002 Glossary of Reporting Terms
Item Name Items Ordered
(Amazon) Items Ordered
(Marketplace)
Books
Companions and Competitors (A Marginal Jew: Rethinking the Historical Jesus, Volume 3)(HB) 1 0
The Legend of the Villa Della Luna: The Sequel to the Secrets of Pistoulet(HB) 0 1
The Republic of Dreams: A Reverie(HB) 0 1
The Secrets of Pistoulet: An Enchanted Fable of Food, Magic, and Love(HB) 0 1
Music
South(CD) 0 1
Ultimate Broadway(CD) 1 0
Toys
Girls Princess Preschool Scooter(TOY) 1 0
Playskool Knee Pads, Elbow Pads, and Gloves: Girls 3-7(TOY) 1 0
Electronics
TEAC P988 Turntable(CE) 0 1
Video
Hooper(VHS) 0 1
Prenatal Yoga(VHS) 0 1
Smokey and the Bandit II(VHS) 0 1
The Beatles - Help!(VHS) 0 1
The Cannonball Run(VHS) 0 1
What Women Want(VHS) 1 0
DVD
A Hard Day's Night(DVD) 1 0
TOTAL 6 10
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Traffic by Item - Orders Report For youtrekcom
September 1, 2002-October 1, 2002 Glossary of Reporting Terms
Item Name Items Ordered
(Amazon) Items Ordered
(Marketplace)
Toys
6" Tomb Raider Figure Combat 2-Pack(TOY) 1 0
Schwinn Deluxe Scooter with Helmet, Pads & Grips(TOY) 1 0
Schwinn Deluxe Sting Ray Foldable Scooter(TOY) 1 0
Electronics
Philips MC5037 3-CD Changer Micro System(CE) 1 0
Video
Walk the Walk(VHS) 1 0
TOTAL 5 0
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Traffic by Item - Orders Report For youtrekcom
October 1, 2002-October 31, 2002 Glossary of Reporting Terms
Item Name Items Ordered
(Amazon) Items Ordered
(Marketplace)
Books
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (Book 2)(PB) 1 0
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (Book 3)(PB) 1 0
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (Book 1)(PB) 1 0
Lonely Planet Britain (3rd Ed)(PB) 0 1
Lonely Planet Norway (Norway, 1st Ed)(PB) 0 1
The Rough Guide to Norway (Norway (Rough Guides))(PB) 0 1
Music
Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius(CD) 0 1
Toys
Celebration Cake Barbie Doll(TOY) 10 0
Pyramid Playset(TOY) 8 0
A Little People Christmas(TOY) 4 0
Hot Wheels Preschool Scooter(TOY) 1 0
Electronics
Palm m105 Handheld(CE) 1 0
Yamaha TSS-1B 6-Piece Dolby Digital/DTS Surround Sound Computer Speakers (Black)(CE) 1 0
Video
Cinderella (Wide World of Disney)(VHS) 1 0
Hogans Heroes Vol 01: Informer(VHS) 0 1
Monsters, Inc.(VHS) 0 1
Mother & Daughter Loving(VHS) 0 1
Murder in Coweta County(VHS) 0 1
The Best of Schoolhouse Rock! - 30th Anniversary Edition(VHS) 0 1
The Dirty Harry Collection (Dirty Harry/Magnum Force/The Enforcer/Sudden Impact/The Dead Pool)(VHS) 1 0
The Fourth Wise Man(VHS) 0 1
The Wiz(VHS) 1 0
DVD
Doctor Zhivago(DVD) 1 0
Mary Poppins(DVD) 0 1
TOTAL 32 11
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November 1, 2002-November 2, 2002 Glossary of Reporting Terms
Item Name Items Ordered
(Amazon) Items Ordered
(Marketplace)
Video
A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving(VHS) 1 0
Happy New Year, Charlie Brown(VHS) 1 0
Peanuts Holiday Collection (A Charlie Brown Christmas/A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving/It's the Great P(VHS) 0 1
This is America, Charlie Brown - The Mayflower Voyages(VHS) 1 0
Software
Family Feud(CD) 1 0
Outburst & Scattergories Twice The Fun (Jewel Case)(CD) 1 0
TOTAL 5 1
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Travel safe
Gordon
YouTrek (http://youtrek.com)

[kickaha]

Gordon,

It is somewhat useful (and I commend you for being open), but we need a larger data set and it would need to be across a broader range of merchants and prodcuts.

-wayne

[Gordon]

Wayne.

Why do I get this feeling that no matter what we give you data wise it will not be enough? It seems to me everytime you are given some information the bar goes higher, you are asking for information that you know is almost impossible to get.

I can hardly see CJ or any of the other networks opening their books to allow us the privilege of knowing the exact figures that it seems you need to have to have to form an opinion so it seems we are screwed from yet another angle.

Would you please answer the 2 questions below and give the reasons why?

1/. Do these figures not prove that the parasites are taking a substantial sum from us and not this 0.0004% or whatever miniscule percentage it was that was posted somewhere on these forums?

2/. Do these figures not prove that without the parasites our conversion rates would be far higher?

Travel safe
Gordon
YouTrek (http://youtrek.com)

[buckworks]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> It is somewhat useful (and I commend you for being open), but we need a larger data set and it would need to be across a broader range of merchants and prodcuts. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Wayne, today's your day to get the writing lesson.

You could have made the same points in a much more positive-sounding way. What you're saying is valid, but the "tone" of how you say it is, um, not good. It really does come across like you're talking down to Gordon. I'm confident that is not your intent, but that's how it comes across. It takes a special kind of courage to show such detailed stats to the world, and it behooves you to take care in the wording of your response so the person who does so can feel good about it. For starters, try rewording it without that "but" ... that's the biggest tone killer.

Gordon, ignore what Wayne said above. Here's what he really meant: /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

========================

Gordon, thank you for sharing those stats. That's exactly what we need to get the ball rolling. If enough others would follow your example, we could get a large enough data sample to draw some reliable conclusions that would stand up to the most persnickety analysis.

What about it, gang? Are there others who would be willing to follow Gordon's example and share their Amazon stats for the same time period?

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Elisabeth "Pollyanna" Archambault

[Andy]

My experience with Amazon is similar to Gordon's. Already in the Fourth Quarter my sales have exceeded what they were during the Second and Third Quarters combined.

There have been no changes to my pages, no new links added, SE positioning has been stable, nothing has changed except for the fact that Amazon made some changes on their end.

Obviously I can't say exactly why my sales have improved so much, but with everything else being a constant, what else would you attribute it to?

Andy

AFFILIATE MARKETING STANDARD: The site upon which the initial action to buy occurs is the site the commission is paid to. Period.

[Edited to add that my unique visitors and click throughs have remained consistent throughout this time period as well.]

[MichaelColey]

My conversion ratios (especially with Amazon.com) go up during the 4th quarter every year. It's tough to compare Q3 with Q4 and determine how much of it is seasonal growth and how much of it is termination of scumware.

Michael Coley
Amazing-Bargains.com

[Andy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> It's tough to compare Q3 with Q4 and determine how much of it is seasonal growth and how much of it is termination of scumware.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree to a point. But when you consider the date the sales conversion increases took effect, and the date of Amazon's announcement, they are very close.

Could it just be coincidence? Yes, it could, but it's doubtful in my opinion. The only ones who can truly document the impact with cold hard data are the networks.

Based on my site's sales history, and comparing it to like periods last year, etc., this type of conversion increase is not typical for October, nor were the slow Second and Third Quarters typical either. Something else was making an impact.

Andy

AFFILIATE MARKETING STANDARD: The site upon which the initial action to buy occurs is the site the commission is paid to. Period.

[kickaha]

To Gordon and all,

I apologize for being terse, it was unintentional and I was very tired. There is an impending death in my family and I am in charge of handling hospice and other details. Combined with my usual business duties and the upcoming meeting it has taken its toll on my energies. Again I apologize if sounded harsh- it was not meant that way and I do commend you for sharing data.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I can hardly see CJ or any of the other networks opening their books to allow us the privilege of knowing the exact figures that it seems you need to have to have to form an opinion so it seems we are screwed from yet another angle <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They cannot open their books- they sign contracts with merchants that will not permit this. Affiliate managers have this information though.



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> 1/. Do these figures not prove that the parasites are taking a substantial sum from us and not this 0.0004% or whatever miniscule percentage it was that was posted somewhere on these forums?

2/. Do these figures not prove that without the parasites our conversion rates would be far higher? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

1- NO- there isn't enough data here and the set is very limited. Remember there are millions of dollars flowing through daily in performance marketing.

2- No. I am afraid it isn't conclusive.

regards,
Wayne

Wayne Porter
V.P. Product Development
AffTrack LLC.
http://www.afftrack.com
http://www.revtrends.com
Advanced & Automated Data Analysis for Performance Marketers.

[ecomcity]

BeFree Stats 7/2002 to 11/3/2002
Transaction Summary by Merchant Report Description Export Report Data PDF | CSV | XML

Date Range(USD) Merchant Name Impressions Click - throughs Items Ordered Ordered Sales Items Shipped Shipped Sales Generated Leads Paid Clicks Returns & Cancellations Base Commissions
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 1StopAuto.com 1,214 10 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Ashford.com 14,474 316 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 barnesandnoble.com Affiliate Network 15,714 341 7 $120.88 7 $120.88 0 0 0 $6.04
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 BIZFON 955 15 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 ComputerGeeks.com 289,318 1,643 0 $0.00 63 $2,883.09 0 0 0 $86.49
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Dell Business 41,065 112 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Discovery.com 8,807 38 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 eBags 7,724 61 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 enews.com 17,824 100 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Fogdog Sports 11,418 26 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 gap.com 5,287 36 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Hello Direct 944 25 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 IBM 49,412 829 2 $70.00 2 $70.00 0 829 0 $26.27
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 LendingTree 7,008 94 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 3 94 0 $11.90
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Lens Express 6,512 117 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Maidenform 107 1 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Micro Warehouse,Inc. 60,795 405 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Overstock.com 61,641 557 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Overture 759 15 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 15 0 $0.26
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Payless ShoeSource 29,582 188 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 PETsMART.com 1,020 56 6 $76.94 6 $76.94 0 0 0 $11.54
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Proflowers.com 4,835 147 4 $159.96 4 $159.96 0 0 0 $31.99
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 QwestDex 0 0 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Shoebuy.com 8,537 71 1 $42.25 1 $42.25 0 0 0 $4.22
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 shopathometv.com 11,815 113 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 SmartBargains 20,372 278 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 SportingbetUSA.com 707 1 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Stamps.com 50 0 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Staples.com 7,699 59 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 TigerDirect.com 1,046,560 18,144 282 $29,048.14 282 $29,048.14 0 0 9 $1,164.67
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Travelocity.com 2,842 252 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 2 0 0 $4.50
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 uSubscribe.com 1,559 10 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 VeriSign --The Value of Trust 556 9 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Verizon/SuperPages.com 18 0 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2002-11/03/2002 Warrantybynet 0 0 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
Total: impressions=1,747,130 clicks=23,969 sales=302 Ordered=$29,518.17 items=365 Shipped sales=$32,401.26 leads=5 paid clicks=938 returns=9 Commissions=$1,347.90

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Same period 1 year ago
Transaction Summary by Merchant Report Description Export Report Data PDF | CSV | XML

Date Range(USD) Merchant Name Impressions Click - throughs Items Ordered Ordered Sales Items Shipped Shipped Sales Generated Leads Paid Clicks Returns & Cancellations Base Commissions
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 1StopAuto.com 3,288 16 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Ashford.com 17,293 443 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 barnesandnoble.com Affiliate Network 22,743 378 6 $90.91 6 $90.91 0 0 0 $4.55
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 BIZFON 2,256 18 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 ComputerGeeks.com 80,903 1,052 0 $0.00 162 $3,513.17 0 0 0 $105.40
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Dell Business 79,287 595 3 $1,008.00 3 $1,008.00 0 0 0 $23.94
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Discovery.com 14,406 173 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 eBags 13,700 95 2 $69.98 2 $69.98 0 0 0 $4.90
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 enews.com 33,768 180 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Fogdog Sports 29,887 197 1 $69.99 1 $69.99 0 0 0 $3.50
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 gap.com 15,831 75 0 $0.00 2 $49.98 0 0 0 $2.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Hello Direct 1,567 79 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 IBM 44,917 224 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 224 0 $6.72
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 LendingTree 1,595 97 0 $0.00 1 $0.00 8 97 0 $11.30
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Lens Express 2,636 88 0 $0.00 1 $156.00 0 0 0 $10.92
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Maidenform 2,083 5 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Micro Warehouse,Inc. 63,314 1,339 3 $1,548.90 2 $1,248.95 0 0 0 $29.48
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Overstock.com 382,332 6,785 0 $0.00 50 $6,916.75 0 0 0 $329.03
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Overture 372 11 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 11 0 $0.02
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Payless ShoeSource 41,934 315 2 $31.98 2 $31.98 0 0 0 $1.60
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 PETsMART.com 951 52 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Proflowers.com 3,355 27 1 $29.95 1 $29.95 0 0 0 $5.99
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 QwestDex 0 0 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Shoebuy.com 22,163 220 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 shopathometv.com 18,833 263 1 $79.99 1 $79.99 0 0 0 $8.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 SmartBargains 3 0 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 SportingbetUSA.com 647 0 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Stamps.com 62 0 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Staples.com 7,671 74 0 $0.00 1 $42.60 0 0 0 $1.70
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 TigerDirect.com 272,984 3,891 0 $0.00 37 $5,054.63 0 0 1 $199.39
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Travelocity.com 4,633 349 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 3 0 0 $3.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 uSubscribe.com 6,894 43 1 $21.94 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 VeriSign --The Value of Trust 2,998 23 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Verizon/SuperPages.com 21 0 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
07/01/2001-11/03/2001 Warrantybynet 0 0 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 0 0 $0.00
Total: impressions=1,195,327 clicks=17,107 sales=20 ordered sales=$2,951.64 items=272 shipped sales=$18,362.88 leads=11 paid clicks=332 returns=1 commissions=$751.42

I assume irregularites due to BF reporting or batches sales errors on ordered verses shipped items. Tiger Direct had some parasite partners til 11/2001 and sales reporting problems til 9/10/2001. They cut off all parasite activity by Sept 1 2002.

summary reports for just TD:

EcomCity -worlds most complete shopping community
From 07/01/2001 To 11/03/2001
Affiliate Site # Shipments Shipped Sales # Returns Returned Sales Net Sales Site Revenue
EcomCity -worlds most complete shopping community 37 $5,054.63 1 $69.99 $4,984.64 $199.39
Total sales=37 shipped=$5,054.63 returns=1 return amt.=$69.99 Net sales=$4,984.64 commissions=$199.39

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EcomCity -worlds most complete shopping community
From 07/01/2002 To 11/03/2002
Affiliate Site # Shipments Shipped Sales # TigerDirect Returns Returned Sales Net Sales Site Revenue
EcomCity -worlds most complete shopping community 282 $29,048.14 9 $496.94 $28,551.20 $1,164.67
Total sales=282 Gross sales=$29,048.14 returns=9 return amt.=$496.94 Net sales=$28,551.20 commissions=$1,164.67

DELL Small Business stats on 3416 clicks y-2001
EcomCity -worlds most complete shopping community
From 07/01/2001 To 11/03/2001
Affiliate Site # Shipments Shipped Sales # Returns Returned Sales Net Sales Site Revenue
EcomCity -worlds most complete shopping community 3 $1,008.00 0 $0.00 $1,008.00 $23.94
Total 3 $1,008.00 0 $0.00 $1,008.00 $23.94

Revenue (Summary Y-2002) on 2879 clicks
EcomCity -worlds most complete shopping community
From 07/01/2002 To 11/03/2002
Affiliate Site # Shipments Shipped Sales # Returns Returned Sales Net Sales Site Revenue
Total 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00

Dell is on all parasite lists and uses internal diversion tactics as well.
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CJ stats for 173 merchants

Web site performance for This Year 2002 Web site name REVENUE SALES LEADS CLICKS IMPS CTR EPM CR EPC
EcomCity-3 Cybermalls in one commissions= $1,484.90 sales=185 leads=9 clicks=47,153 impressions=5,208,715 0.01.1 $0.39 0.005 EPC=$4.00 ( this year I still have from Nov3-Dec 31st to complete.)

Web site performance for Last Year 2001
Web site name REVENUE SALES LEADS CLICKS IMPS CTR EPM CR EPC
EcomCity-3 Cybermalls in one revenue= $2,554.72 sales=307 leads=28 clicks=51,833 impressions=5,177,064 0.010 $0.49 0.006 EPC=$4.93

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BeFree Overstock ( always had Parasites) stats 2001 -7/1 to 11/3

Total impressions=382,332 clicks=6,785 click to impressiosn= 1.77%

EcomCity -worlds most complete shopping community
From 07/01/2001 To 11/03/2001
Affiliate Site # Shipments Shipped Sales # Returns Returned Sales Net Sales Site Revenue
EcomCity -worlds most complete shopping community 50 $6,916.75 0 $0.00 $6,916.75 $329.03
Total 50 $6,916.75 0 $0.00 $6,916.75 $329.03


Linkshare report summary for OverStock 7/1 thru 11/3

Impressions= 911,549 clicks=8,408 orders=38 Gross sales= $4,323.60 commissions=239.80

WebMaster Mike

[buckworks]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> 2- No. I am afraid it isn't conclusive. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

By itself it's not conclusive. But if a hundred other Amazon affiliates whose traffic, SE rankings etc had been stable showed noticeable increases in their sales starting right when some major parasites were dropped, it would convince even the most rigorous statistical analysis that something significant had happened, something different than just "things always get busier at this time of year".

If I had enough Amazon stats to be worth adding to the mix I'd post them, but I don't promote them and my total Amazon commissions in 2002 last time I checked amounted to less than ten bucks. Imagine Wayne's reaction to the size of that data sample!

[Gordon]

@ buckworks
Thanks that is very much apreciated.

@Wayne
Sorry you are in this position when you least need to be. Apology accepted no problem.

@ Mike
Thanks for posting your stats, with a bit of luck others might follow suit and give Wayne enough data to do something with.

Travel safe
Gordon
YouTrek (http://youtrek.com)

[webmarm]

I'd have nice Amazon data to show except that my best pages dropped into the Goohoo pit. So my stats would be very skewed. I'm selling, but smaller ticket items and not at the rate I was previously.

That is one of the factors that is extremely difficult to isolate. My traffic has changed drastically, what keywords folks are finding my page with has changed drastically (unfortunately I personally find the searches less relevant, which impacts my CR).

- - - - -
42. Yup, the answer to life, the universe, and everything.

[SSanf]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> with a bit of luck others might follow suit and give Wayne enough data to do something with.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What would he do with it????

The Wolf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Cooperate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your feelings. Leave your mark.

[kickaha]

Thanks for your understanding Gordon.

SSanf- nothing. Everyone- please don't send me data! Part of my job is data analysis, but that is certainly something I would never do on a message board. I do urge all affiliates to keep records and analyze their own data.

I simply want to to hear from merchants that cite similiar examples as was cited by Jim Gribble.

best,
Wayne

Wayne Porter
V.P. Product Development
AffTrack LLC.
http://www.afftrack.com
http://www.revtrends.com
Advanced & Automated Data Analysis for Performance Marketers.