[Eathan]

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Paid32.com (http://www.paid32.com/?inv=32eat) - new debt consolidation partner program offers:

<LI>Free private label websites at the click of a button (new site in just a couple minutes)

There are 15 to 20 styles to choose from. I have a live example up at: debtAway.org (http://www.debtaway.org/).

<LI>Fantastic commissions with several options to choose from

Choose from $32 plus %50 for life of the client, $100 plus 25% for life or $200 per join.

<LI>Built in affiliate program allows you to recruit affiliates for your site

Private label sites include a built in affiliate program. You can recruit affiliates to promote your site, select their commission level and earn big time commissions on the leads they refer to you.

<LI>Top notch partner support by phone and email

This is a "Partner Program" in the truest sense. Support is fast and friendly.

<LI>No cost to join

<LI>Top searched industry

Overture had 490,210 searches for "debt consolidation" in March, 2004. Nearly a half a million searches a month...

Paid32.com (http://www.paid32.com/?inv=32eat)

Contact me with any questions.

Eathan Mertz
541-521-8122

[Eathan]

I think I forgot to mention weekly payouts!

Also, average life of residual commissions is 30 months per client!

Other debt consolidation programs pay per lead. They make the real money over the life of the client.

Paid32.com (http://www.paid32.com/?inv=32eat) is the first revenue sharing program of its kind, offering a 50/50 split on revenue!

If you're a skilled marketer, this is an opportunity well worth checking out.

Paid32.com (http://www.paid32.com/?inv=32eat)

Cheers,

Eathan

[Eathan]

Just a heads up for those using the site generator; there is a "readme.htm" file included that you'll want to read during initial setup.

Cheers,

Eathan

[MsMarySunshine]

hey Pharm, are you sure this was a "Public" offering. I thought that there were those of us who had a type of "First" offering, then we sign up others as our affiliates......under our own programs.

[SpikeDo]

After unzipping my site, I couldn't find a readme file.

[Eathan]

Hi MsMary,

You are correct that the offering is not open to just anyone. Paid32 (http://www.paid32.com/?inv=32eat) is only looking for talented marketers to start this off on the right foot. ABW is one of the better places online for marketing talent.

Marketing partners will then be able to recruit affiliates to direct traffic towards their own sites as you say. These affiliates will be paid on the more traditional "per lead" model that most in the industry are already familiar with.

Basically, marketing partners will be able to compete directly with the pay per lead programs out there for affiliates.

I hope that clarifies some.

Best regards,

Eathan

[Gordon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> The DebtAway.org Difference:

Earn up to $12.00 per lead!
Weekly Payouts!
Pay period from Sunday through Saturday
Checks are usually mailed on Thursday - We do not hold back a week of your hard-earned pay like some other affiliate programs
Profitability - Our affiliates make $175-$250 per 100 visitors that they send to us.
Reliable Tracking Software
Real time statistics
Typical conversion rate from search engines is an amazing 20%!
Get approved in real time and have your affiliate code up and driving traffic in minutes from now.
Click here to get started! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The above was copied from your website affiliates signup page.


Am I going stupid here or are you really trying to pull the wool over someones eyes?

On the top line you say "Earn up to $12.00 per lead!" then only 5 lines below that you are telling us "Our affiliates make $175-$250 per 100 visitors that they send to us" ????

Is it only me that can see there is no comparison whatsoever in the two lots of figures? On the one hand you are offering us a potential $1200.00 per 100 visitors and on the other you are crashing us down to earth with a paltry $1.75 - $2.50 per sign up and you are making it sound good.

If your monetary figures are so grossly inflated I cannot help but wonder if your SE conversion figures are also grossly inflated.

I'm not even an affiliate nor do I wish to be at those rates but it sure seems to me you need to work on getting some realistic figures out here.

[Eathan]

SpikeDo,

Oops!

It looks like the readme file is only required if you've selected the "include affiliate program" option while building.

Sorry for the confusion.

I'll double check this is correct and get back to you.

Cheers,

Eathan

[Eathan]

Gordon,

Sorry, debtAway.org isn't the program. It's just an example of the sites generated using the Paid32 (http://www.paid32.com/?inv=32eat) autobuilder.

This thread is about the Marketing Partner program offered by Paid32 (http://www.paid32.com/?inv=32eat). The program has an optional Affiliate Program element included in the sites provided to Marketing Partners. Sounds like that is what you're referring to.

As for the math, a lead in this case is a visitor who completes the signup form. Visitor to form conversion isn't likely to be 100%, so $1200 is unlikely.

The Paid32 (http://www.paid32.com/?inv=32eat) Partner program pays on closed leads. That's the $32 + 50%, $100 + 25% or $200 figure listed above.

[Gordon]

thank you that explains it....I thought I was going mad there for a minute. http://abw.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[loxly]

Not sure how I missed this, glad it came up to the top of the heap again http://abw.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Just applied.

[Woz]

What about phone sign-ups?

From the sign up page on debtaway.org - "If you would like to speak to a Debt Repayment Representative right now call" this number.

Are phone enquiries attributed to affiliates, or must all sign-ups go through the web form?

Woz

[gotbuzz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>hey Pharm, are you sure this was a "Public" offering. I thought that there were those of us who had a type of "First" offering, then we sign up others as our affiliates......under our own programs.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess I'm not the only one that that was under the same impression. So much for running your own affiliate program.

[Eathan]

Gordon, I'm glad that clarified. Sorry again. http://abw.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Deborah, glad to hear it! I'm very excited about this program. I have a feeling it will do very well.

Woz, I want to confirm that they are credited to partners, and how it's tracked before answering. I'll post on that tomorrow.

GotBuzz, as a Marketing Partner you are able to run your own affiliate program.

Paid32.com (http://www.paid32.com/?inv=32eat) offers a Partner Program. Each Partner then has the option to run an Affiliate Program as an additional means of promoting their sites.

This thread is announcing the Partner Program, and listing the built in Affiliate Program as one of the benefits of becoming a Partner. Unfortunately, I think I confused things by linking to an example of one of the styles of free sites available to Partners.

Eathan

[gotbuzz]

You are missing the point. You are announcing this program publicly to a forum with over 13k affiliates with an open invitation to join. Instead of this program being a private, invitation only deal like it was originally presented to us as, the floodgates just opened up.

You just took away a huge opportunity for those of us wanting to run our own affiliate program.

[domainconsultant]

Recruiting affiliates to be paid for people signing up through a form (aka a lead) IS substantially different then affilaites who are being paid for the CONVERTED customer acquisitions (aka NEW CUSTOMER)

But the whole "run your own program" thing here doesn't really seem to be something really planned out well unless they expect it to be just a means to generate link popularity with newbie or amateur webmasters who don't know any better.

[Eathan]

GotBuzz, this offer is invite only, but public invites have been made in a few venues frequented by top marketers most able to run with a program like this.

ABW is certainly among those venues, and this is one of the few public invites made.

edrugs.com, you've hit the nail on the head. This program is entirely different because it is based on converted clients on a rev share basis rather than leads. The residual revenue is where the money is made.

The "run your own program" component is an optional piece of the greater program. Paid32 (http://www.paid32.com/?inv=32eat) has done a pretty good job of providing Partners with a built in affiliate program, with the basic functionality of other pay per lead programs on the market.

To be honest, I'm impressed with the depth of the affiliate program piece, and how much work they've saved would be program managers, but it's just one more element that makes the greater program as a whole, well worth a look.

Eathan

[Eathan]

SpikeDo,

It looks like the readme file was indeed supposed to be included. You can check it out online at the link below.

README (http://www.paid32.com/sitegenerator/readme.htm)

Woz,

Yes, leads who call the number without filling out any part of the form are first asked what site they got the number from. The site name requested as part of the build process can be used to match callers with partners.

Page one of the form is all it takes to track the lead with 100% certainty and it asks for so little info that callers should be minimal, but you could always remove the number from that page to insure the lead submits that first part of the form.

That's the lovely part about running your own site... http://abw.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cheers,

Eathan

[kellmk]

I think it's important to mention pharm_boy isn't the affiliate director for paid32. He is just an affiliate like the rest of us. If you cut out the middle man (pharm_boy) you will make more money. Think about that before you sign up with his affiliate link!

[Eathan]

Actually, that's not true.

I'm not posting as a Marketing Partner recruiting Affiliates. I am posting as a recruiter working with Paid32.com to bring in productive Marketing Partners.

You won't make a penny more by "cutting out the middle man" and the suggestion is similar to telling surfers to bypass affiliate links or advertising altogether.

[Eathan]

Follow up to SpikeDo's earlier question:

The builder has been updated to now include the ReadMe file in all cases. Good catch!

I also wanted to point out two other nice features of the Paid32 (http://www.paid32.com/?inv=32eat) program.

First, the optional Affiliate Program portion of the program is set up so your Affiliates link to your site, rather than through a third party, so you get the full benefit of all those inbound links. Everybody loves linkpop...

Second, the system is set up to handle an advertising ID variable in links pointing to your site. This allows much better tracking of advertising success or failure.

For example, you bid on "debt consolidation" on AdWords and want to track leads off that bid. You assign 22 as the ad ID for that link and append the variable to the URL you use in your ad and leads from that ad will then include 22 in the ad ID portion of your reports.

Let me know if I can answer any other questions.

Thanks,

Eathan

[loxly]

How long does it take to get approved? I applied last week and haven't heard anything.

[Eathan]

Deborah,

I thought you were approved last week, but it may have been a different Deborah.

PM me your details and I'll double check.

Thanks,

Eathan

[kellmk]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pharm_boy:
Actually, that's not true.

I'm not posting as a Marketing Partner recruiting Affiliates. I am posting as a recruiter working with Paid32.com to bring in productive Marketing Partners.

You won't make a penny more by "cutting out the middle man" and the suggestion is similar to telling surfers to bypass affiliate links or advertising altogether. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OK...I was wrong. I was under the impression there would be only a handful of marketing partners and was surprised when I saw it announced here. It could get ugly with so many offering the same program. Either way... paid32 is run by a awesome company and will be a great program if you just want to generate leads as an affiliate. I realize most people on this forum aren't going to want to run their own affiliate program. Not everyone wants to deal with more paperwork, billing, ect.

[Eathan]

kellmk, thanks for replying. I think you're right that some Partners won't be interested in the affiliate program portion of this offering. For those who want it, it's an option, but it's really only one piece of a much larger program.

Personally, I think it's one of many great bullet points that make the Paid32 (http://www.paid32.com/?inv=32eat) Partner Program one of the best offerings to come along in a while, but certainly not the most important.

The automated site builder and powerful tracking options, as well as the residuals on the rev share stand out in my mind as leading the charge. I guess that's why this is such an exciting program to promote.

It has all the right pieces to meet the needs of a wide array of marketers.

Anyway, thanks again and sorry we got off on the wrong foot.

Eathan