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Brian - ShareASale September 15th, 2003, 12:50 PM Anybody have any knowledge on this... purchasepost.com has a domain registered to 180solutions... does anyone know if purchasepost is using the same nCase means ... Thanks, -Brian Littleton -Owner/Operator Shareasale.com brian@shareasale.com Drewbert September 15th, 2003, 08:15 PM purchasepost.com uses the same nameservers as 180solutions.com. the NS domain reeltimes.tv is also registered to the same crowd. So I think you may have a positive match there. Jimmy James Inc. fan club membership # 3312 TFAW.com September 22nd, 2003, 11:10 AM I can definitely confirm that Purchase Post is engaging in parasitic activity. I just forwarded hard evidence from my server logs to CJ where legitimately referred search engine and ppc traffic (containing NO affiliate site in their results) is followed directly by a hit to our home page with purchasepost.com's PID. [21/Sep/2003:19:32:55 -0700] "GET /search/?sstring=[some_highly_ranked_term] HTTP/1.1" 200 46730 "http://www.google.com/search?q=[some_highly_ranked_term]&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)" [21/Sep/2003:19:32:58 -0700] "GET /?AID=5533438&PID=1363882 HTTP/1.1" 200 41482 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)" This publisher has been expired, and all their transactions will be reversed shortly. I hope this post helps other merchants identify these jokers and kick them out of their programs as well. The good thing is that this publisher is still new, and only joined CJ on August 26th. I have been suspicious of their high traffic for about a week, but I didn't have evidence until this morning when I spent some time digging through the logs. Good call on the DNS server match, Drewbert. I wouldn't normally consider a dns server match since many, many companies share dns services. Every little bit of data helps though. Thanks, Dale Things From Another World http://www.tfaw.com/ We offer: 7%/90days/Unlimited Sales/Performance Incentives/Parasite Free! Affiliate Intranet - FREE Datafeed http://www.tfaw.com/intranet/ ecomcity September 22nd, 2003, 01:06 PM Another prime example of a sleezy merchant poser at CJ using "tricks for Clicks" to pad their own affiliate account. Boot 180 solutions and all their offspring out of the networks and save the real merchants EPC. Mike & Charlie ... http://abw.infopop.cc/smilies/parrot.gif If they won't adopt and feed a bird ..flip them one! BBQ some Gator and remember to flush WhenU.. Chet_B September 22nd, 2003, 09:13 PM Thanks for the info Guys! It seems more Parasites are crawling out of the woodwork these days. Thankfully for forums like this we can all stick together... 180solutions will now need to find a new "solution" to their vitamin commissions. To Good Health & Wellbeing, Chet Brzezinski eVitamins Affiliate Manager http://www.eVitamins.com The eVitamins Parasite & Scumware Policy: http://www.vitamins-etc.com/parasitepolicy.asp ecomcity September 22nd, 2003, 09:30 PM Smart move Chet as these BHO's refuse to advertise, put up pre-sell showcases or do anything more than snatch a cash from real merchants tills. All the merchants posting here at ABW need to put out a banned list of Dupers and rogue affiliates in the merchants only forum. Mike & Charlie ... http://abw.infopop.cc/smilies/parrot.gif If they won't adopt and feed a bird ..flip them one! BBQ some Gator and remember to flush WhenU.. Andy September 23rd, 2003, 05:29 AM Wouldn't it be nice if CJ started enforcing their policies for a change and put a stop to this SH!T? http://abw.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif I'm sure they'll allow the scum to stay in the network, since they have "connections" to their top publishers! http://abw.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif Andy _______________ <font color="red">Call the Exterminators! We've Got PARASITES! (http://www.parasiteware.com)</font> Akiva September 23rd, 2003, 08:05 AM I assume that their website at www.purchasepost.com (http://www.purchasepost.com) is just a front for them having another active PID... Akiva Bergstrom Affiliate Partner Manager <TABLE BORDER=0 cellspacing=2 width=500><TR><TD> <FONT SIZE=1>EssentialApparel.com (http://www.essentialapparel.com/) CJ/6%/120 days/Datafeed/Parasite free Email: akiva@essentialapparel.com Phone: 973.696.6200 ext 751 > Join now! < (https://members.cj.com/member/accounts/publisher/getadvertiserdetail.do?advertiserId=763447) </TD><TD><FONT SIZE=1>SportsFanfare.com (http://www.sportsfanfare.com/) CJ/10%/120 days/Datafeed/Parasite free Email: akiva@sportsfanfare.com AIM: akivabergs > Join now! < (https://members.cj.com/member/accounts/publisher/getadvertiserdetail.do?advertiserId=1174844) </TD></TR></TABLE> ecomcity September 23rd, 2003, 08:09 AM For great AM's like Akiva running parasite free programs you'd think CJ could furnish you with all this wanks PID's. Mike & Charlie ... http://abw.infopop.cc/smilies/parrot.gif If they won't adopt and feed a bird ..flip them one! BBQ some Gator and remember to flush WhenU.. Akiva September 25th, 2003, 02:51 PM Per CJ rules, PurchasePost has ammended their incentive description to: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Ncase software: Once installed, we provide the user with contextually based shopping alternatives which then generate money for us based on our partnerships with the comparison shopping sources. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> They are now reapplying to all programs. Needless to say they have been declined for the programs I manage http://abw.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Akiva Bergstrom Affiliate Partner Manager <TABLE BORDER=0 cellspacing=2 width=500><TR><TD> <FONT SIZE=1>EssentialApparel.com (http://www.essentialapparel.com/) CJ/6%/120 days/Datafeed/Parasite free Email: akiva@essentialapparel.com Phone: 973.696.6200 ext 751 > Join now! < (https://members.cj.com/member/accounts/publisher/getadvertiserdetail.do?advertiserId=763447) </TD><TD><FONT SIZE=1>SportsFanfare.com (http://www.sportsfanfare.com/) CJ/10%/120 days/Datafeed/Parasite free Email: akiva@sportsfanfare.com AIM: akivabergs > Join now! < (https://members.cj.com/member/accounts/publisher/getadvertiserdetail.do?advertiserId=1174844) </TD></TR></TABLE> TFAW.com September 25th, 2003, 03:20 PM Someone from CJ's fraud department called me this morning to talk about PP. CJ has blacklisted PP from our program and reversed all the sales they made this month since joining (about a dozen). Looks like they made PP disclose exactly what software they are using (Ncase, from 180solutions) in order to keep their account. Contextually-based shopping alternatives my a$$... Thieves! http://abestweb.com/smilies/dev2.gif -Dale Things From Another World http://www.tfaw.com/ We offer: 7%/90days/Unlimited Sales/Performance Incentives/Parasite Free! Affiliate Intranet - FREE Datafeed http://www.tfaw.com/intranet/ Akiva September 25th, 2003, 05:35 PM Yep. CJ reversed all of September's transactions today. I counted 12 for SportsFanfare and 6 for EssentialApparel. Akiva Bergstrom Affiliate Partner Manager <TABLE BORDER=0 cellspacing=2 width=500><TR><TD> <FONT SIZE=1>EssentialApparel.com (http://www.essentialapparel.com/) CJ/6%/120 days/Datafeed/Parasite free Email: akiva@essentialapparel.com Phone: 973.696.6200 ext 751 > Join now! < (https://members.cj.com/member/accounts/publisher/getadvertiserdetail.do?advertiserId=763447) </TD><TD><FONT SIZE=1>SportsFanfare.com (http://www.sportsfanfare.com/) CJ/10%/120 days/Datafeed/Parasite free Email: akiva@sportsfanfare.com AIM: akivabergs > Join now! < (https://members.cj.com/member/accounts/publisher/getadvertiserdetail.do?advertiserId=1174844) </TD></TR></TABLE> happypoon September 25th, 2003, 05:49 PM So let me get this straight..... CJ finds they were "not necessarilty truthfull in their prior representation of themselves ", cancels all sales and closes all relationships. Then allows them to change their description, re-apply to merchants and then do business as normal. Am I reading this right? =============================== PeePee merchants with PooPoo policies allow our earnings to be flushed down the crapper. Why give parasites unlimited cookie durations and credit for sales where they divert our users and overwrite our cookies. PP merchants directly support what many consider unfair trade practices and thievery! =============================== ShoreMark September 25th, 2003, 06:13 PM <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by happypoon: So let me get this straight..... Am I reading this right?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Sounds about right to me and sounds like the same old tired routine too. There should be a flurry of new 60 day routines starting up about 10/15 or so. ecomcity September 25th, 2003, 07:34 PM Now that CJ has tipped them how to word their incent offering rather then completely barring them and all nCase/180 Solutions look alikes, they can operate at will. Hell they can buy up 100 domains and launch 2 page clone sites with drive-by installs from porn pop-up hell holes and e-mail spamm script installs. CJ care to comment why they don't Red flag all S/W download affiliates so AM's can easily recognize them. Second no S/W download affiliate can earn a dime till their BHO passes some stringent testing. I'm for a one stike your out policy. Mike & Charlie ... http://abw.infopop.cc/smilies/parrot.gif If they won't adopt and feed a bird ..flip them one! BBQ some Gator and remember to flush WhenU.. Brian - ShareASale September 25th, 2003, 07:34 PM This was particularily upsetting to me... I spoke to 18O Solutions when we discovered what they were doing in their very short lived shareasale stint. I spoke with them calmly about how software was not an accepted method of promotion on our network, etc... etc... They show up ~3 months later with a different front/domain/etc... Probably not suprising to anyone... but thems the facts. http://abestweb.com/smilies/banghead.gif did they forget? Thanks, -Brian Littleton -Owner/Operator Shareasale.com brian@shareasale.com Akiva September 25th, 2003, 08:50 PM <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by happypoon: So let me get this straight..... CJ finds they were "not necessarilty truthfull in their prior representation of themselves ", cancels all sales and closes all relationships. Then allows them to change their description, re-apply to merchants and then do business as normal. Am I reading this right? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Basically http://abw.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The policy is that since those commissions were earned while in violation of the CJ TOS, CJ revokes the commission by reversing the transactions. So now they redo their description and must be reviewed again by all merchants. Akiva Bergstrom Affiliate Partner Manager <TABLE BORDER=0 cellspacing=2 width=500><TR><TD> <FONT SIZE=1>EssentialApparel.com (http://www.essentialapparel.com/) CJ/6%/120 days/Datafeed/Parasite free Email: akiva@essentialapparel.com Phone: 973.696.6200 ext 751 > Join now! < (https://members.cj.com/member/accounts/publisher/getadvertiserdetail.do?advertiserId=763447) </TD><TD><FONT SIZE=1>SportsFanfare.com (http://www.sportsfanfare.com/) CJ/10%/120 days/Datafeed/Parasite free Email: akiva@sportsfanfare.com AIM: akivabergs > Join now! < (https://members.cj.com/member/accounts/publisher/getadvertiserdetail.do?advertiserId=1174844) </TD></TR></TABLE> ecomcity September 25th, 2003, 09:18 PM Akiva why don't you and the other like minded CJ AM's get together and DEMAND all BHO affiliates be identified upfront when applying to a program. It was that way in 1999-2000 requiring written approval for any incent/reward/surf to earn affiliate to join a merchants program. Mike & Charlie ... http://abw.infopop.cc/smilies/parrot.gif If they won't adopt and feed a bird ..flip them one! BBQ some Gator and remember to flush WhenU.. Irma October 31st, 2003, 08:07 AM These people thrive on deception, cheating and they don't care about what others say. They will keep trying and trying, instead of stopping they think up new ways to disguise and cheat... Chris - AMWSO February 25th, 2004, 10:53 PM Anyone seen this one on LinkShare yet? If so please post the SID for me Thanks Chris flamingoworld February 25th, 2004, 11:12 PM Here is their linkshare id from their links: EuNzK5cT07w
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