Ask Jeeves Stealing Adsense Revenue?


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Electropulse
February 13th, 2005, 08:10 PM
Just noticed that Ask Jeeves frames your site and if there's adsense on it, the greedy f'n butler will replace it with his own...

in other words not only are they defacing your site with a stock(white and blue) adsense ad, they are replacing it with their own.

I'm not sure if this has been addressed here or if google knows about this, but I find this very unacceptable and sleazy.

now we really know that the butler did it!

Vrindavan
February 13th, 2005, 08:42 PM
can you show me an example ?

infoTim
February 13th, 2005, 08:58 PM
Holy cow...you're absolutely right! That's so wrong. :-(

Well, Ask.com just earned a place in my referer blacklist file.

I didn't pick up on this until I realized the color scheme of the framed AS was different than the unframed one.

Linda
February 13th, 2005, 09:00 PM
It looks to me like you are sooooo right.

I went to Ask Jeeves, did a search for one of my site pages that has adsense on it. I clicked thru on the link the search gave me and there was an adsense ad outlined in dark blue with ads about insurance. I have the ads display in green that match my site pages and there is no mention of insurance on my pages for adsense to be displaying insurance ads. I clicked on the "remove preview" link in the Ask Jeeves frame to remove my site from their frame and what do ya know? My page shows like it's supposed to be - green outlined adsense ad - and the ads that now show match the page that they're on.

So since when did Google Adsense start allowing other sites to change the adsense ads shown on my pages to visitors to my site?

Trust
February 13th, 2005, 09:08 PM
Whoa. I tried one of my sites without adsense the only site i have with adsense. And am seeing the same thing Electropulse posted. I'm looking at my page with their adsense on it.

chetf
February 13th, 2005, 09:09 PM
It does not actually change your id. Check the final numbers of any link, they should be the same as your id. What it does do is boof the style sheet and also the content it sees. It seems every page shows insurance ads when you go through them.

This is bad, but they are not stealing.

Ask.com just sucks, this is just more proof.

Vinny O'Hare
February 13th, 2005, 09:20 PM
I get ads for pet urine on my site even though my site has nothing to do with pets. It also looks like they use the default google colors which make my site look real bad.

HardwareGeek
February 13th, 2005, 09:27 PM
My site it doesn't change anything did a view source and the id numbers were the same.

Trust
February 13th, 2005, 09:40 PM
I'm going to contact Google. I'm seeing ads for pet urine too. Since it doesn't match what's on my page, money is being lost all the way around.

Electropulse
February 13th, 2005, 09:54 PM
I'm getting cough surpressing strip ads, not fair to those advertisers...pretty soon they will feel it, seeing this, now I know for sure I will never advertise on googles search network.

infoTim
February 13th, 2005, 10:13 PM
Good point, it's not strictly stealing the ad, because my id is still there. But the colors are off and the relevancy is out the window. Instead of the tightly targeted ads that give me good AS revenue, I have generic junk that has nothing to do with the page.

infoTim
February 13th, 2005, 10:20 PM
After a little experimenting, I'm starting to think this is a google bug with AS on framed pages. I would have to build out a framed page to test this, but this is what I see:

1. use Ask.com to get to page with AS ad, see it's generic and poorly targeted.
2. click link within framed page to go to another page at the same site.
3. the AS ad displays properly color-wise, but is targeted at the PREVIOUS page.
4. repeat step 3, the targeting is for the previous page every time.

So for example, in step 2, you're viewing a page about widgets. The ad is for dog urine remover. :-)

You click a link at the site for a page about frobnitzes. The ad is for widgets.

You click a link at the site for a page about rice pudding. The ad is for frobnitzes.

My guess is the framing is messing up AS, not the butler doing anything nefarious.

waybar
February 13th, 2005, 10:28 PM
I'm getting cough surpressing strip ads, not fair to those advertisers...pretty soon they will feel it, seeing this, now I know for sure I will never advertise on googles search network.

Don't you mean the content network? The search network doesn't show
ads on adsense.

HardwareGeek
February 13th, 2005, 10:42 PM
I beleive Google will suggest to you guys check the box that says this ad will be placed in a frame page when you get the ad code.

HardwareGeek
February 14th, 2005, 12:10 AM
Since this was moved out of the Midnight cafe here. Don't you think it should of been moved here
http://forum.abestweb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=261

Dynamoo
February 14th, 2005, 03:11 AM
(Moved again)

I can't generate exactly the same fault, but I can confirm that the ID number on the ads appears to be unchanged.

Woz
February 14th, 2005, 04:37 AM
I haven't had a look at the ask.com results so I don't know the specifics, but the simple solution would be to install a frame buster script on your site/s.

Woz

SpikeDo
February 15th, 2005, 11:40 AM
Can you post the code to this frame buster script?

Azam
February 15th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Simply insert this between your HEAD tags:

<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
<!--
if (top != self) { top.location = location; }
// -->
</script>

If you visit the top site here (http://web.ask.com/web?q=ukhotmovies.com&qsrc=1&o=0) in Ask Jeeves results, you'll see it breaks out of the irritating frame.

Cursal
February 15th, 2005, 04:39 PM
Thanks for the code :)

That's going on all my sites

--Brian

Electropulse
February 16th, 2005, 05:03 PM
Simply insert this between your HEAD tags:

<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
<!--
if (top != self) { top.location = location; }
// -->
</script>

If you visit the top site here (http://web.ask.com/web?q=ukhotmovies.com&qsrc=1&o=0) in Ask Jeeves results, you'll see it breaks out of the irritating frame.

yep, this works. thank you! :approval:

SpikeDo
February 16th, 2005, 05:07 PM
Many thanks Azam.com!

Note: I tried to pull up my sites using askjeeves.com seacrh engine and it didn't put any ads on my sites. Can someone show me a better example? I want to see what it does.

Vinny O'Hare
February 16th, 2005, 08:49 PM
Spikedo
I just put readydomains.com in the ask jeeves search box and a few of your listings show up. When you click on one these you will see your homepage and the adsense on your page shows up for cough medicne

SpikeDo
February 16th, 2005, 11:54 PM
Thanks nyfalcon. Now I see what they are doing. I tried it with a few of my affiliate sites before and it didn't do it for them. I wonder why.

UncleScooter
February 19th, 2005, 01:00 AM
They have apparently quit this practice. I just looked at my sites with Adssense and all was fine.

        
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