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Before I start promoting away I want to tell you a little about my personal experience with this program/company. Today (11/9/09) is my 75th day without a cigarette, prior to that I had been a 2+ pack a day smoker for over 20 years. Not to long ago my wife woke me up in the middle of the night because my coughing and wheezing were keeping her up; I was sleeping right through it. With thoughts of a young family heavily on our brains, and my health at risk from smoking, I finally went to the doctor for some help quitting. I was expecting the “gum, patch or pill” approach. He is the one who originally told me about GreenSmoke and the fantastic success rate that electronic cigs have had in helping people reduce and quit smoking.
Since then I have not looked back. I bought the product, tried it, reduced and then quit smoking, joined as an affiliate, made some money, and am now an affiliate recruiter for GS. I am knowledgeable about the product itself, the program rules, how the company operates, and the current controversy surrounding this exploding new market segment. I stand behind the effectiveness and quality of this product 100% for a single reason; it has worked for me and probably is saving my life.
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About the GreenSmoke affiliate program:
Company based in FL – ships internationally, accepts international affiliates
Seeking both online affiliates and local distributors
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Commission Structure:
10-20% of new retail customers for the life of the customer based on volume (new affiliates start @ 15%)
20% of any affiliates commissions that you sign up for the life of the affiliate
2-5% of wholesale sales after the execution of a distribution agreement, if you refer a distributor
$25 signup bonus
$100 minimum payout
Payments are made once per month for the previous month’s sales
Site converts VERY well
Loads of professionally made marketing materials from banners and business cards to JavaScript corner peels and magazine ads
That is awesome, way to go Greg. I am a smoker and I quit for about 5 days using the nicoderm cq patches but then started up again like an idiot. I can relate to your situation with your wife waking you up because of your breathing at night. My ex girlfriend use to tell me how bad I was when we were together. She would say that I would be wheezing, coughing, having a hard time breathing, so I really want to quit smoking too, but it is a very hard habit to break.
Just thought that I would share that with you. I will definitely take a look at that site. Take care and God Bless.
Thanks Vic, it has really made a big difference in my life, this is actually my third time quitting, but I think this one will stick!
As a side note the success rate for the e-cig was 45% after 8 weeks on a 200+ person trial in Cape Town SA, that is much higher than the gum/patch/pill
Best,
Greg Netland
Tel: 203.200.0317
@: info [at] AdZaz [dot] com
That is very cool. I am probably going to try the nicoderm cq patches for now, although I did checkout the website, but I don't have that kind of money for the e-cig, so I am hoping that I can quit with the patch.
I am happy for you though as quitting cigs is a very hard thing to do. I know that I will quit before the end of the year.
So anyway, what kind of methods do you use to promote your affiliate program/s? I have been into affiliate marketing for awhile now, but haven't had much success yet.
Well take care. I got to start getting ready for work, have a great evening. Oh, by the way, are you on facebook,skype, or twitter?
Hey Vic, I'm not sure I understand your cost objection as 4 weeks worth of the cq patch costs more then the GS, but to each his own and good luck with your quit!
As far as what is successful online and what is not I have two places to suggest, the first is Loxley's "Magic Bullet" thread , and the second is to spend some time reading through this forum, its a great place and you can learn a lot if you are willing to invest the time and effort.
Of coarse if you join up with GS I'll be happy to help get you up and running with some basic techniques and ideas.
Best,
Greg Netland
Tel: 203.200.0317
@: info [at] AdZaz [dot] com
Hey Vic, I'm not sure I understand your cost objection as 4 weeks worth of the cq patch costs more then the GS, but to each his own and good luck with your quit!
As far as what is successful online and what is not I have two places to suggest, the first is Loxley's "Magic Bullet" thread , and the second is to spend some time reading through this forum, its a great place and you can learn a lot if you are willing to invest the time and effort.
Of coarse if you join up with GS I'll be happy to help get you up and running with some basic techniques and ideas.
Best,
Greg Netland
Tel: 203.200.0317
@: info [at] AdZaz [dot] com
Oh ok. I went to the website and I saw a couple of products and the cheapest thing was for like $120 or something like that. I did go through it a little fast though, lol. I will have to take a closer look at the product and see if their is anything cheaper, as I am on a budget at the moment.
Hey Vic, I'm not sure I understand your cost objection as 4 weeks worth of the cq patch costs more then the GS, but to each his own and good luck with your quit!
One of the major differences between The Patch and e-cigarettes is that the patch is designed to help an individual END their addiction to nicotine while e-cigarettes are designed to maintain that addiction so that the manufacturers can sell more. So while The Patch may be more expensive then e-cigs they are designed to be used for a very limited time, the purpose of e-cigs it would appear is to sustain a nicotine addiction indefinitely.
And frankly, the "controversy" as you put it, and medical concerns (FDA and Public Health Experts Warn About Electronic Cigarettes), surrounding e-cigarettes does appear to be a cause of concern. I would not recommend or sell these products until they have been fully tested and proven to be safe. And even then, I would not sell them as a smoking cessation method, that would be very misleading since they maintain the addiction to nicotine.
-rematt
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@vic Our entry level product (the social smoker kit) includes a battery, USB and wall charger, and 5 pack of cartridges (about the equivalent of a carton of cigs) for $109.00. Since price is an issue, take another 10% off with code disc10-4499 making it $98.10. Hope you try it out...
Best,
Greg Netland
Tel: 203.200.0317
@: info [at] AdZaz [dot] com
@rematt, First off thank you. In my original post I said I was looking forward to the impending debate about this product, and you have really opened it up, so here we go....
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Originally Posted by rematt
the major differences between the Patch and e-cigarettes is that the patch is designed to help an individual END their addiction to nicotine while e-cigarettes are designed to maintain that addiction so that the manufacturers can sell more
This is really up to the end user of the product, you can use the e-cigarette like you would a regular cigarette and continue "smoking" (vaporizing) as you normally would with greatly reduced health risks, or you can use the product to ween yourself off nicotine as I did. GreenSmoke offers 5 different "strengths" of cartridges:
16mg = comparable to non filtered cigarettes
8mg = comparable to 'Full Flavored'
6mg = comparable to 'Lights'
4mg = comparable to 'Ultra Lights'
0mg = cartridges with the flavor but which contain no nicotine at all.
I started at the 8mg level and worked my way down to 0mg (just water vapor) over about 6 weeks, the last time I took nicotine into my system was 78 days ago, which I use as my actual "quit date".
Now you may think that this is just my experience and may be a fluke, but it is not. A recent study conducted by Doctors in Cape Town SA tested e-cigarettes on 349 patients. After two weeks 6 percent of the patients had stopped smoking, and the quit rate rose to nearly half (45 percent) after two months. By contrast, a 2002 study in the journal Addiction found that the six-week quit rate was about 16 percent for smokers chewing nicotine gum and about 19 percent for smokers using nicotine patches. After six months, those rates fell to about 8 percent and 9 percent, respectively.
And frankly, the "controversy" as you put it, and medical concerns (FDA and Public Health Experts Warn About Electronic Cigarettes), surrounding e-cigarettes does appear to be a cause of concern. I would not recommend or sell these products until they have been fully tested and proven to be safe. And even then, I would not sell them as a smoking cessation method, that would be very misleading since they maintain the addiction to nicotine.
This really strikes at the heart of the controversy. First off I would like to state some facts:
Cigarettes are bad
Nicotine is a highly addictive and dangerous substance, but not a carcinogen
Most of the damage done to smokers is a result of inhaling the actual smoke and the 4000+ toxic chemicals big tobacco has "enhanced" the product with
We are not selling carrot sticks here:
GreenSmoke e-cigs are not marketed as "healthy"
GreenSmoke e-cigs are not marketed to non-smokers
GreenSmoke e-cigs are not sold to minors
No one has disputed that e-cigarettes are many times less harmful than traditional cigarettes
I personally think the FDA is serving the interests of those who lobby with the most cash with there announcement rather then the American public. Both big tobacco and big pharma have recognized the e-cig as a major threat to their bottom lines and are doing everything they can to stop the sale of them. In fact Phillip Morris is currently in closed door negotiations with the largest manufacturer of e-cigs in the world, and it is believed if they do go through with the purchase they will simply shut the company down to stop production.
Anyway, that is all really my opinion and speculation. However, the FDA's comments did not go unanswered; in a Washington Times article Dr. Elizabeth Whelan, president of the American Council on Science and Health, responded to the FDA's announcement, her opening quote really drives home my
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At a time when the government is ostensibly trying to cut health costs, why is it trying to ban something that might help people quit smoking tobacco, perhaps the most devastating health problem in the U.S.?
I think this is an excellent, and thought provoking question, you can read the whole article here:
I hope this addresses some of your reservations about offering this product.
Again this is a controversial and new product, but it is unquestionably better than smoking, and it is selling like hot-cakes. With Christmas just around the corner we are seeing sales pick up as loved ones buy our product for their smoking spouses. What better gift could you give then a healthier lifestyle? Give us a try as an affiliate, I really think you will be pleased with the conversion rates we are currently seeing.
Greg a full debate of this issue is going to have to wait until after the first of the year, as much as I love a good debate, right now too much energy is going toward 4th quarter business and this just isn't business related (at least not my business). And I am going to totally ignore your studies until I know who commissioned them, you should know how useless these studies are. For every article or "study" you can find that says that they're benign, I can find ten that say they're dangerous. And you should be very careful about comparing safety information until all the facts are in. From where I stand all I see is trading one dangerous habit for another potentially dangerous habit. Right now, the e-cig manufacturers are starting to sound exactly like the tobacco companies did 40 years ago.
From the Green Smoke Web Site:
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And from the FDA:
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The FDA’s Division of Pharmaceutical Analysis analyzed the ingredients in a small sample of cartridges from two leading brands of electronic cigarettes. In one sample, the FDA’s analyses detected diethylene glycol, a chemical used in antifreeze that is toxic to humans, and in several other samples, the FDA analyses detected carcinogens, including nitrosamines. These tests indicate that these products contained detectable levels of known carcinogens and toxic chemicals to which users could potentially be exposed.
I'm an ex smoker and I understand how difficult stopping is. But no where on their site is there mention of using their product to stop smoking. Instead we get this disclaimer:
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The Green Smoke electric cigarette contains nicotine, which is highly addictive. It is not a medical device and makes no claims to help a person quit smoking. The Green Smoke electric cigarette is allowed to be used only by adults (minimum age 18 or 21 depending on individual's state laws). Like cigarettes, it is not FDA approved.
In fact, selling a "Starter Kit" would seem to me to be promoting a long term use of the product. They have gold cases and accessories and even an E-Hookah; they're selling a lifestyle, not a way to stop smoking. You may have been able to quit smoking using this product, but that's clearly not it's intended use.
Regardless of all of the arguments for and against, the articles and commissioned studies, there is absolutely nothing that I've found from INDEPENDENT sources that recommend e-cigs as even a "good" alternative to smoking. I mean come on, who am I gonna trust? The FDA or someone who's trying to sell me something?
-rematt
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Last edited by rematt : November 12th, 2009 at 04:00 PM.
Reason: Added Paragraph from FDA News Release
The American Council on Science and Health (ACSH) is a consumer education consortium concerned with issues related to food, nutrition, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, lifestyle, the environment and health.
ACSH is an independent, nonprofit, tax-exempt organization. The nucleus of ACSH is a board of 350 physicians, scientists and policy advisors - experts in a wide variety of fields-who review the Council's reports and participate in ACSH seminars, press conferences, media communications and other educational activities.
Here are three of her quotes from the article regarding what many have said is simply FDA "fear mongering"
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c The FDA complained that the e-cigarette was a "nicotine-delivery system." Well, it got that much right. But again, it's the smoke that kills, not the nicotine. Yes, nicotine is highly addictive, and it is what keeps the smoker hooked. But getting the nicotine without the smoke is an enormous health advantage for cigarette smokers (the nicotine inserts come in various strengths and the users can adjust them downward as they wish).
c The FDA has approved other nicotine-delivery systems in the form of gums and patches -- and they have been abysmal failures. The smoking cessation rates using these devices is less than 15 percent after one year, condemning millions of addicted smokers to a lingering death. We desperately need other alternatives. But the FDA has now joined a long list of so-called public-health organizations -- including the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids and the American Lung Association -- whose collective motto seems to be "quit or die." Not only do they reject e-cigarettes, but they also condemn other smokeless products like snus, which have a mere fraction of the health risks associated with smoking cigarettes.
c More than 1 million smokers are now using the e-cigarette -- a product that offers some, if not all, of the "social amenities" of the real thing -- holding the cigarette, taking a drag, seeing a plume of "smoke." The FDA, lacking data that e-cigarettes pose a health hazard, was so desperate, it called on consumers to phone in adverse side effects of e-cigarettes so they could begin to build a case against them and proceed with their intended ban. They neglected, however, to request smokers who successfully quit using the e-cigarette to also call in.
Also, I want to point out that GreenSmoke has not been named by the FDA in any of these allegations (and at this point they are just allegations, not facts), and the two companies that were have sued the FDA, and are in ongoing litigation:
That is great news Boost Silver! Be sure to drop into our affiliate forum in your back office and say hello to the team and your other affiliates. I am here to support and help you out in any way I can, please do not hesitate to give me a call or shoot me an email anytime.
Welcome to the program.
Best,
Greg Netland
Tel: 203.200.0317
@: info [at] AdZaz [dot] com Join GreenSmoke Now
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Wow! that's great. I never thought this before that this kinds of anti smoking products are available. I really appreciate this working, LOL. i am an affiliate and I am very busy. If I get time, I will start to work with you......................Thanks...
Vaporing vs smoking has helped me cut my smoking by two thirds, if not more. I've tried to quit for years and this is the closest I've come. I think my sense of taste is returning, because cigs don't taste as good as they used to. And now I can vape and not bother non-smokers. I guess I don't look at it as a way to quit smoking, but hopefully use it as a safer alternative that is also less offensive to those around me.
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That is great Leeann! I can relate on the taste, when I quit (100 days today) the next day I started noticing things tasting better. Have you considered our program?
Four great new flash holiday banner designs, each in 6 sizes, are now available for GS affiliates. I would post the animated versions here, but I cannot embed the flash so the static screen shots will have to do…
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Hi AdZaz,
It doesn't really fit with what I do, but ty for asking
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Just wanted to let you all know our Holiday sales are through the roof, NOW is the time to join to catch the New Years Eve resolution quitters! We are expecting a huge boost and have warehoused over 700k in product in the US for the new year's rush!
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I will definitely take a look at that site. Take care and God Bless.
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